How to Increase Upload Speed With Spectrum Cisco Router

sev123
bring together:2013-11-xx
Tujunga, CA

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Upload speed increases?

Has anyone seen any info about possible upgrades to the upload speeds? Its honestly so damn slow! I don't sympathise how nosotros go a gig service with crap upload speeds? I hope someone has some info on speed increases on uploading.

Shadow612
join:2017-09-15
Rosemount, MN

Completely agree, would exist happy with 200/50 or meliorate.
Like to see less than l ms ping besides

gtb
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to sev123

While there may be a few cherry picked sites, Lease has not announced any specific schedules for upgrading their infrastructure for D3.i FDX (the next logical stride) which would provide the capability of substantial upload speed increases for their residential cable service (Charter already provides other service offerings which have college speeds, only non at residential pricing).

Shadow612
join:2017-09-15
Rosemount, MN

Last I read was that FDX is renamed to d4.0

Anone34f4

Anon

said past Shadow612:

Terminal I read was that FDX is renamed to d4.0

Whatever you lot want to call it we're not getting a 200/50 tier every bit someone else suggested. You're not getting much college than 50 Mbps on upload and if Charter went that loftier they do it for Gig non 200. Until FDX or d4.0 comes effectually at best I encounter 200/twenty, 400/35 940/l. With a possibility that 200 somewhen becomes 250 and 400 becomes 500 though that'south a unlike topic of discussion.

to sev123

While symmetrical DOCSIS is theoretically possible, not one cable ISP has demonstrated whatsoever interest in decent upload speeds to date. That doesn't seem to be on their bucket list.

Anone34f4

Anon

said by oldbuzzard:

While symmetrical DOCSIS is theoretically possible, not one cable Internet access provider has demonstrated any interest in decent upload speeds to engagement. That doesn't seem to exist on their saucepan listing.

Yes if they rather offer 50 DL 50 UL plans otherwise no. No one tin can do 200/200 400/400 and 940/940 with current tech. Incommunicable

to oldbuzzard

Except Charter executives have talked about symmetrical ten/10 services for some time at present being a priority long term. And Comcast and Cox. Since FDX or Docsis iv.0 is the next standard after three.1. It makes sense that's what there going for now.


maartena
Elmo
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Orange, CA

to Anone34f4
said past Anone34f4 :

Yeah if they rather offer 50 DL 50 UL plans otherwise no. No ane can do 200/200 400/400 and 940/940 with current tech. Incommunicable

I call up the HIGHEST upload I take seen in the DOCSIS world is 50 Mbps, I believe on the WOW (Broad Open West) Gigabit service, most providers limit it to 35 Mbps, which is barely enough to comprehend the 2-3% of bundle requests required but to have a sustained close-to 1 Gig download.

At this moment, the only technology that can go symmetrical downwardly/upload to a higher place l-ish Mbps or so.... is fiber.

In my case AT&T delivers fiber to my door, but other providers (Verizon FIOS, Frontier FIOS, Google Cobweb, Centurylink) offer it in other parts of the land, IF you are lucky....

Note that Google Fiber stopped expanding, but Verizon, Borderland, AT&T and Centurylink notwithstanding are expanding.

In the cable world, Altice has decided to go fiber instead of upgrading copper with new DOCSIS technologies. I am non really familiar with their efforts, but they practice offering i Gigabit symmetrical connections where they take fiber deployed.

DOCSIS 4.0 (or whatever it will be called) does have a time to come for the next 5-10 years or so, but I recollect eventually everything should be upgraded to fiber. It's the only true time to come-proof solution. Just it comes at a heavy investment cost, then I tin can't blame cable operators being cautious.....

said by maartena:

DOCSIS 4.0 (or any it will be called) does have a hereafter for the adjacent five-10 years or and so

xv Gbps (will grow to at least 25 Gbps) per segment volition expire in ten years?

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to maartena
said by maartena:
said by Anone34f4 :

Yep if they rather offer 50 DL 50 UL plans otherwise no. No 1 can exercise 200/200 400/400 and 940/940 with current tech. IMPOSSIBLE

I think the HIGHEST upload I have seen in the DOCSIS world is 50 Mbps, I believe on the WOW (Broad Open Westward) Gigabit service, most providers limit it to 35 Mbps, which is barely enough to comprehend the 2-3% of bundle requests required just to have a sustained shut-to 1 Gig download.

At this moment, the only applied science that tin can get symmetrical down/upload in a higher place 50-ish Mbps or so.... is fiber.

In my case AT&T delivers cobweb to my door, but other providers (Verizon FIOS, Frontier FIOS, Google Cobweb, Centurylink) offer information technology in other parts of the country, IF yous are lucky....

Note that Google Cobweb stopped expanding, but Verizon, Borderland, AT&T and Centurylink still are expanding.

In the cablevision world, Altice has decided to go fiber instead of upgrading copper with new DOCSIS technologies. I am not really familiar with their efforts, merely they do offer 1 Gigabit symmetrical connections where they have cobweb deployed.

DOCSIS 4.0 (or any it volition be called) does have a hereafter for the side by side 5-10 years or so, but I call up somewhen everything should be upgraded to fiber. It's the only true futurity-proof solution. But it comes at a heavy investment cost, so I can't blame cable operators being cautious.....

I get 1000/l with Grande Cable. Maxes out effectually 52mbps.

to sev123

Only a couple of smaller cable companies like WOW, Grande, and Mediacom are doing 50Mbps upward. The big 3 (Spectrum, Comcast, Cox) all max at 35Mbps for some reason.

I wish something could be washed at present before having to wait 5 years or then for total duplex.

to Purnerdyl00
said by Purnerdyl00:

Except Charter executives have talked near symmetrical 10/10 services for some fourth dimension now being a priority long term. And Comcast and Cox. Since FDX or Docsis 4.0 is the next standard after 3.1. It makes sense that'south what there going for now.

Key word LONG TERM. That does not mean they have that technology Now. Fifty-fifty if they had FDX it tin't even do ten/10 correct now. If FDX deployment BEGINS before Jan 2021 I;d be shocked. And total deployment is maybe 4 years away.


maartena
Elmo
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to Franken
said by Franken:

xv Gbps (will grow to at least 25 Gbps) per segment will elapse in x years?

I don't know. Only I practise know this:

one) The cobweb cablevision I currently have coming to my firm is already capable of doing 100 Gbps, they would merely need to change the equipment on either side.

2) In that location are some futurity technologies in the works that are on the cutting edge now.... but might become more interesting in the near time to come. Virtual Reality in 4k resolution needs roughly 800 Mbps per user. (Example: They attach a total 4k 360 degree camera right under the score board at a basketball, and y'all can wait in Whatever direction, while thousands of others can wait in whatsoever direction they want - basically this requires 32 4k streams at 25 Mbps each). Should it go to 8k, each private watching would demand almost 2.five Gbit/south in bandwidth. Now... we can discuss the fact of whether you need 4k or 8k in VR spectacles all you want, I would imagine you lot probably don't..... merely nevertheless, this kind of technology is being developed. It can really happen NOW every bit all the hardware exists, it is just defective the bandwidth to people to really make information technology a commercial success. Nippon is on the forefront of moving to 8k, and the Tokyo Olympics will not but be broadcasted in 8k to apartment screens, they will likewise add VR to most events.... in 8k.

I don't know what the future brings. But it wasn't that long ago that the industry thought that they could prolong the futurity of telco copper for a lot longer, simply then 4k Idiot box's hit the market, 4k streaming became a affair in many households, and all over sudden that 25 Mbps vDSL connectedness was obsolete.

DOCSIS 4.0 might be an reply for aging copper networks, but the but way to truly future proof a network... is to go with fiber.

kherr
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to Anone34f4

..... they CAN do a lot of things ...... but for premium $$$$ ...... why spend it when there'due south still life it what's installed.

generally merely techies and people that work from abode would utilise it anyway. your average customer has no clue equally to what tier they accept or how it's delivered ..... they only know their email and browser works

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to Anone34f4

Yes. Tom Rutledge pictures the entire footprint having x/10 gig in 10 years time. We will see though, but that sounds nigh rights. Maybe less time if 5G is more than of threat and/or the new satellite internet providers like SpaceX and at present Amazon start putting up very proficient rates and speeds.


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With cloud based computing condign more and more a norm, they really should work on the upload speeds. I've seen 90/90 on a spectrum business wifi. And this was in Crystal River, Fl. Not a raging metro area.

Buickman
join:2017-04-21
Rosemount, MN

Thays a fiber line, not DOCSIS cable.

Anone34f4 to maartena

Anon

to maartena
said by maartena:

Annotation that Google Fiber stopped expanding, only Verizon, Frontier, AT&T and Centurylink all the same are expanding.

Not true. Verizon stop FiOS expansion years ago. In fact they sold off California Texas and Florida. Any FiOS work they are doing is to fullfill contracts they signed over a decade ago. Same thing with at&t. They are just finishing buildouts of areas they promised to bring fiber to. And even in Areas where they take cobweb most of the time it's very pocket-size portion of an area. I remember when at&t outset announced cobweb arriving in Nashville. Turns out information technology was just available to 2 high hire apartment complexes. If one firm can become it in the surface area it's considered served. Even in KC where Google first launched Google Fiber there are parts that never got it. Either serve the entire expanse or non at all. I know Lease is required to serve ALL houses in my city limits not but where the rich people live. not sure why fiber is subject to different rules


maartena
Elmo
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Orange, CA

to thischucks
said by thischucks:

I've seen 90/90 on a spectrum business wifi. And this was in Crystal River, Fl. Non a raging metro area.

That'south probably a 100 Mbps fiber, delivered over fiber cablevision with a RJ-45 handoff on a Spectrum provided router. The port is likely configured at 100/Total Duplex, and then you'll see about 95/95 max when yous are wired in, so 93/93 is pretty much expressionless on over wifi.

I accept diverse locations for my work connected with such cobweb. Prices, if I recall the billing on them, are about $700-750 a month for the 100 (but we may go a fleck of a discount having half-dozen or and so circuits with them, including 2 giggers), and they come with a /29 IP range. They can evangelize that nearly anywhere within Spectrum market, and they tin even extend into other markets equally business fiber is a different animate being.

You cannot, still, get whatever Telly beyond that cobweb. Its purely business organisation only. You can get a SIP excursion on the same line if you need phone.

All you lot need to get the above.... is having plenty of this:

If you are hard upward on upload speed within the next iv years or and so.... it might be cheaper to Motion!


train_wreck
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Antioch, TN

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said by maartena:

If you are hard up on upload speed within the next four years or so.... it might be cheaper to MOVE!

Not simply cheaper, simply in many cases required. At that place are plenty of places where there is zero cobweb near you, and nothing style to become information technology, even if yous had unlimited cash.

to maartena

Really?

I thought that they were limited to about 35 or 50 max considering upstream was just bonded on 4 D3.0 channels.

Are you saying that bounding say 8 channels, or using D3.1 for upstream notwithstanding cannot get past about 50mbit?

D3.0 theoretical limits are 1.2Gig downwardly 200Mbit upwards.
D3.1 theoretical limits are 10Gig downwardly 1Gig (some sources say 2Gig) up.

Spectrum switching the downstream from D3.0 to D3.1 immune them to offset offering Gig down. But if they switch the upstream from D3.0 to D3.1 you lot are saying it wont offer any more upstream bandwidth potential?

I idea they were freeing up a lot of cable spectrum past turning off erstwhile legacy Television receiver signals and this would provide room for D3.1 upstream bonding in the near future.


maartena
Elmo
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maartena

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said by SirMaster:

Really?

I thought that they were limited to about 35 or 50 max because upstream was merely bonded on 4 D3.0 channels.

Are you saying that bounding say viii channels, or using D3.1 for upstream still cannot get past about 50mbit?

D3.0 theoretical limits are one.2Gig downwards 200Mbit up.
D3.1 theoretical limits are 10Gig downwards 1Gig (some sources say 2Gig) upwards.

I cannot remember a time when ANY provider went with the "theoretical limit" on anything. You lot have to retrieve that iv or 8 channels, they are still shared to an extend, just like the downstream side.... now on the downstream side they are up to 32 channels at present I believe, which is used to get ane Gbit/s downstream.

With 8 channels upstream, and having to share that with a lot of neighbors.... I really don't see them go much across 100 Mbps upstream, even when in "theory" it is possible.

But fifty-fifty 100 Mbps is a HUGE improvement over the 35 Mbps you can get at present....

Well of course they wouldn't go anywhere most the theoretical, I never assumed they would.

Merely when the theoretical is 200Mbit and the actual is 35-50Mbit, you would think that when the theoretical increases by five-10x to g-2000Mbit, that they could at least increase the actual by 2-4x to accomplish like 70-200Mbit or something.

Uploads right now are of course x/xx/35.

I would hope that when they move upstream to D3.1 they could at the very least double them to 20/40/70, or peradventure like 25/l/100. That would be very welcome to me particularly if in that location is no price increase. They take increased the downstream multiple times in the past without a price increase.

to maartena
said by maartena:

The fiber cablevision I currently have coming to my house is already capable of doing 100 Gbps, they would just need to change the equipment on either side

Admission engineering science targeted private customers will not go there for a long while, and then that is theoretical.

The coax cablevision can also get there, theoretical. It might some 24-hour interval, if the operator pulls cobweb to the tap.

Anon1f531

Anon

At a college where I piece of work, internet admission is through Spectrum. Believe it or non, the up and down speeds are symmetrical. Downwards is 350 Mbps and same up. I never asked why. Withal, browsing is great in terms of speed, loading pages, etc.

gtb
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NorCal

gtb

Premium Member

said by Anon1f531 :

Believe it or non, the up and downwardly speeds are symmetrical.

Charter has in many locations Business/Enterprise service offerings upwardly to 100gbps (symmetric) at business pricing....


maartena
Elmo
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to Franken
said by Franken:

Access technology targeted private customers will not go there for a long while, so that is theoretical.

The coax cable tin can also go there, theoretical. It might some day, if the operator pulls cobweb to the tap.

The divergence is that if the powers that be place a fat $150,000 Cisco router capable of routing 100 Gbit/s such every bit the one used for large backbones.... in my business firm *today*, and a like piece of equipment on the other side of the cable.... that it could transport 100 Gbit/s *today*.

The cobweb cable coming to my house is really non all that unlike than those used *today* for actually fat backbone connections. Evidently, the whole fiber GPON setup from AT&T would prohibit me from doing and so, only the cablevision is ready *now*.

You can throw a million dollars at it, only there is currently no engineering in being that would push 100 Gbit/s over a piece of coaxial copper cablevision.

maartena
to Anone34f4
said past Anone34f4 :

Not truthful. Verizon terminate FiOS expansion years agone. Same thing with at&t.

AT&T is yet expanding. And they are planning to expand more than.

Read this Q1 2019 Earnings Call transcript, it certainly indicates they will keep to expand, and await to hit 22 million homes passed by July. (Annotation that the condition for the DirecTV merger was 12 million homes).

»investors.att.com/~/medi ··· 019/1Q19 ATT Earnings Transcript.pdf


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to maartena
said by maartena:

The difference is that if the powers that be place a fat $150,000 Cisco router capable of routing 100 Gbit/s such as the one used for big backbones.... in my firm *today*, and a similar slice of equipment on the other side of the cable.... that it could transport 100 Gbit/s *today*.

Are we not talking well-nigh connections targeted private customers? And then no, you lot cannot get that today. My indicate is: The HFC plant volition evolve over fourth dimension alongside fiber. I think most MSOs have FTTH as their final goal at some fourth dimension in the future.

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